Billions of refugees seek shelter from deadly weather events, antibiotics have lost their potency, nations wage wars over land and water, and activists not opposed to violence towards humans try to save animals from extinction.

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    Samurai Posted on June 30, 2019 in SciFi.

    title: GENERATION: DOOMSDAY.

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      UPDATE 1: A famous philosopher inspires much violence, an army of activists kill to save animals, and a race-car driver travels at untested light-speed to cool down the globe by inducing a second Ice Age.

      Samurai Answered on July 10, 2019.
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        Who is the lead character?

        What is their goal?

        What is standing in their way?

        Singularity Answered on June 30, 2019.
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          The logline sets up an apocalyptic situation but doesn’t follow through with a plot.

          Singularity Answered on June 30, 2019.
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            As Richiev and dpg have pointed out this is merely the world that is presented in the film. It’s like a prologue and would be covered in the first 5/10 mins. We need to know what specifically is happening to one (or a few) particular character(s) in this world.  Consider Wall-E. In the first 10 mins or so we see the world as it currently is and through newspapers, big screen TV adverts, etc, we learn how and why the world is as it is – this is all done whilst being introduced to Wall-E.

            The logline itself doesn’t need to cover the world the story is set in as much detail. SciFi/fantasy is hard to logline for because you do need extra words to allow for the world building stuff but you only need to include stuff that is relevant to the story itself. If the protagonist is a doctor then the bit about antibiotics is more relevant. If they are a refugee, use the bit about refugees. It doesn’t mean that the world doesn’t include all of these elements, it just means the logline only includes the bits that are actually relevant to the story you are trying to tell.

            Hope this helps.

            Summitry Answered on July 1, 2019.
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              COMMENTS FOR UPDATE 1:

              Working on the assumption that this is set in a future version of Earth – it has been well established that physical objects  simply can’t travel at the speed of light. HOWEVER, I fully appreciate that that’s what scientists say now and in the future it’s possible that they might change their mind and that’s not to mention the fact that this is a sci-fi film. BUT I can’t help but think if we can travel at the speed of light then all of the other stories are rendered irrelevant.

              I would focus on one of these three strand to be honest. It’s really hard to give any sort of feedback when you are merely stating characters and what they are doing rather than giving us a story. I don’t care about any of these characters because we have no reason to. If I don’t care then I’m not going to get past the logline.

              I also think if a second ice age is induced then surely all the animals that the activists are fighting for will die as will a lot of people. The philosopher bit is just a statement too. It doesn’t mean anything in a storytelling capacity.

              I think the version of the world set up in your first attempt is stronger because it’s not confused by the whole light speed bit. In that world you’ve set up, find an individual protagonist and tell us what their story is – inciting incident, character, goal, stakes.

              Hope this helps.

              Summitry Answered on July 10, 2019.
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                The story sets out a situation where the world is going to hell in a hand basket.  But who is the main character?  What is the inciting incident?

                And although the scifi genre allows creative elasticity when it comes to the laws of physics, the  scientific “magic” has to have a verisimilitude of being scientifically credible.  And I just don ‘t see how traveling at light speed can instantiate another ice age.  How can a race-driver who in every second will be 186,000 miles further from the earth be able to pull off that stunt?

                Singularity Answered on July 10, 2019.

                The race-car driver and seven scientists are recruited to travel at light-speed inside a space ship around the globe, not away from it. stopping at six determined spots evenly spread across Earth, where they will plant atmospheric convertors. The problem is the devices must be activated at the same time, and the condition the planet is in could easily dismantle said convertors. Luckily, successively traveling at light-speed and stopping above each designated location causes splinter versions of each passenger of the space ship. Six different versions of the eight person crew touch down on Earth at roughly the same time, although, the seven scientists develop a mental condition diagnosed as Light-Speed Mania.

                on July 10, 2019.
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                  LOGLINE UPDATE #2:

                  Flying around the globe at light-speed creates six versions of the same race-car driver, who must induce a second Ice Age by themselves after their travel companions become manic from the voyage.

                  Samurai Answered on October 22, 2019.

                  It looks like you’re just throwing random ideas together, although they all seem tied to this idea that traveling at light speed can fix the global climate.  However, all that doesn’t seem to be the point of your story, just the setup.  We’ll take for granted the brilliant scientists came up with this crazy scheme and chose the most badass pilot to fly the mission… (race car driver maybe, although that seems a little too weird)

                  When an experimental spacecraft test pilot flies at light speed to induce a second Ice Age and fix the global climate, his travel companions develop serious mental health issues and …

                  what?

                  Does this pilot/driver need to somehow fix that?  I mean, they saved the world… It’s unfortunate that they got light-speed mania n’ all, but… means to an end, no?  I can see if this is a character piece, and he really cares about those travel companions.  There are seven of them though.  If it was just one or two long-time fellow pilots/friends, then you can make it more about the need to cure light-speed mania.

                  on October 23, 2019.

                  Think of it more like Interstellar meets Sunshine. The point of the story is we will all be destroyed by mother nature much much sooner than most think. So much will happen in this script and this most recent logline is focusing on the subplot that takes up the most pages. I chose to make the protagonist of this story a race-car driver because they are the most used to travelling at high speeds, and why the scientists go insane since they are not. The scientists all want to murder the race-car driver and interfere with the mission because he was not affected like them.

                  on October 23, 2019.
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                    Surely the best person to fly this thing is not a race car driver but an astronaut… trained in this kinda thing. When the space programme started, they didn’t choose people who were just used to travelling at speed. They chose people who were intelligent and exceptional pilots… key word is pilots. Just because the driver is used to going fast doesn’t mean he can fly, so why would anyone think he was a better choice than the leading astronaut at that time? Someone who can fly and is also used to speed and has had psychological training to deal with such a situation. A race car driver just makes no sense to me at all.

                    You’re telling us they must induce a second ice-age… but why? To what end. That’s the goal. Why does a second ice age need to be induced bearing in mind that most plants and animals on earth will die?!

                    I stand by my previous thoughts on light speed travel. If light speed is possible, then everything changes. Everything is possible at that point unless you’re adding to what we currently know about light speed travel. If that’s the case, we NEED that information to understand how this could work.

                    I think the idea that we will all be destroyed by Mother Nature is a good inciting incident BUT what your characters seem to do about it makes very little sense right now. There needs to be something that grounds it in reality even if it is a SciFi. How would light speed travel induce an ice age??

                    Summitry Answered on October 23, 2019.

                    The light-speed rocket is self-piloted.

                    The second Ice Age needs to happen because global warming will eventually reach its peak, threatening all of humanity.

                    I do not understand how us achieving light-speed travel would make us all-knowing.

                    How would light-speed travel induce an Ice Age? Please refer to my previous comment explaining this thoroughly.

                    on October 23, 2019.

                    I suppose the part that everyone is most confused about is that the atmospheric convertors are deployed on (a totally changed by intense heat) Earth not outside of it.

                    on October 23, 2019.

                    Apologies, I missed that comment. I like that idea – I can get my head around it.

                    Can I ask why they need to light speed travel? Can’t they just have 6 different teams of people?

                    on October 23, 2019.

                    I mainly chose to use light-speed because it seems cool. I first got the idea that the eight person crew would simply use the travel method to rapidly deploy each convertor one at a time. Then I thought it would be neat and also logical if light-speed travel could create multiple versions of passengers, and this would also make the mission much simpler, by having to only prepare a small number of people, and less time consuming.

                    on October 26, 2019.
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