Short Film: After the Sun went out, the earth became a cold, dangerous and dark place and people avoid leaving the house in fear of the temperature, murderers and lack of oxygen. When a young girl, depressed by her parents disappearance, realizes her little sister has left, she must go out and find her before it's too late.

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    Logliner Posted on May 20, 2015 in Public.
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      What do you think of this:

      “In a world with no sun, a girl obsessed with her parents disappearance must face her fear of the dark  to rescue her sister from a cult who intends to sacrifice her to the Sun god.”

      Logliner Answered on January 21, 2016.
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        How realistic do you want this to be? The human race is probably long gone before the effects of the Sun burning up are felt on Earth. More info: http://www.livescience.com/32879-what-happens-to-earth-when-sun-dies.html

        Samurai Answered on May 20, 2015.
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          You can do the logline in one shrt sentence and focus more on the plot (what happens?). The description of the future world is too long and it would be better to let the reader understand how the context is connected to the story of your character. “before it’s too late” is too vague.

          Something like:
          When her sister get lost in a toxic world with no sun, a young girl must face the fear of darkness to find her before she runs out of oxygen.

          good luck!

          Mentor Answered on May 20, 2015.
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            Good points raised above.

            The logline presents a big plot hole one which may be dealt with elegantly in the story but could be a big stumbling block to many readers. This is because our sun will, before literally “going out”, go supernova and engulf the earth.

            The likelihood of life surviving this presents a large caveat in the basic logic of the premise. I think best to not mention this in the logline and as FFF suggested focus on the plot who wants what and why.

            The second half of the logline:
            “… When a young girl, depressed by her parents disappearance, realizes her little sister has left, she must go out and find her before it’s too late. ”

            Is your story use this as a base and add a brief description of the environment to help understand the stakes.
            i.e:

            After a young girl, depressed by her parents disappearance, realizes her little sister has wondered alone into the post apocalyptic wasteland they live in, she must find her before any of the surviving gangs do.

            Not sure how to fit the decaying atmosphere into this, I’m also not sure it is needed either, if the danger of a desperate bunch of people is introduced.

            Hope this helps.

            Singularity Answered on May 20, 2015.
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              If the sun went out, no one would survive. You are better off with some sort of nuclear winter or darkness cause by an asteroid hitting the earth.

              Singularity Answered on May 20, 2015.
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                Thank you for your comments.

                I’ve been reading about this possibility of the sun going out, and I’m not trying to start a fight here, but I’ve found that some experts say mankind would disappear when that started to happen, while others state that people could survive for a few weeks or months (even longer if they got into a submarine that would lead them somewhere closer to the earth’s core or to a place where they could use geothermal energy).

                Either way, I would argue that this would not be a film about the sun going out, rather a film about a young girl looking for her sister in a world where there is no more sun and with the certainty of death because of it.

                I believe that if the story about the girl is strong enough, it will not matter if things are possible or not.

                So, regarding the story, these would be the elements:

                Main Character: Young girl
                Flaw: Depressed and afraid
                Dilemma: To stay home in safety or to go out and find her sister
                Goal: To find her sister
                Antagonist: The environment (darkness, cold temperatures, lack of oxygen)
                Obstacles: Lack of food, murderers, religious sun fanatics
                Inner Journey: Going from afraid, depressed and lonely to brave and valuing the people she still has.

                What do you think ?

                Logliner Answered on May 21, 2015.
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                  Precisely “when that started to happen” But in your logline you state “when the Sun went out so then it’s much too late. You must rephrase your logline.

                  Your story element are ok.

                  But these people would literaly live in an ICE AGE; the last two Ice ages humanity has servived but this Ice age would be much more severe. Only with superiour technologie humanity could survive. But do we still have this knowledge? If there would be lack of oxigen I don’t know?

                  It all lets me think of my favorite science fiction writerJack Vances’ The Dying Earth tales (that in reality would not be illogical) :

                  “A dim place, ancient beyond knowledge. Once it was a tall world of cloudy mountains and bright rivers, and the sun was a white blazing ball. Ages of rain and wind have beaten and rounded the granite, and the sun is feeble and red. The continents have sunk and risen. A million cities have lifted towers, have fallen to dust. In the place of the old peoples a few thousand strange souls live. There is evil on Earth, evil distilled by time … Earth is dying and in its twilight.” The “few thousand strange souls” are “feverishly merry, for infinite night was close at hand, when the red sun should finally flicker and go black”. There is magic, but we learn it is somehow derived from “a strange abstract lore … termed ‘mathematics’ … Passive itself and not of sorcery, it elucidates every problem, each phase of existence, all the secrets of time and space. Your spells and runes are built upon its power and codified according to a great underlying mosaic of magic.”

                  For inspiration read: http://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/dec/05/fantasy-tales-dying-earth-jack-vance

                  Samurai Answered on May 21, 2015.
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                    I think the story elements are good only the flaw needs to relate to her obstacles as her over coming her flaw should be a condition of achieving the main goal.

                    My suggestion for clarity sake would be to change her flaw to only fear without the depression. The logline can then change to:
                    After her little sister has wondered alone into the post apocalyptic wasteland they live in, a young girl petrified of the outdoors must find her before any of the surviving gangs do.

                    Singularity Answered on May 21, 2015.
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                      Nir Shelter, I agree with you.

                      So what do you think of this log line:

                      “In a dark and dangerous world with no sun and most of the people gone, a terrified young girl must find her sister before she dies from the cold, lack of oxygen or gets killed by survivors gone mad”

                      Also, just for argument’s sake, how could I, in your opinion, transform this so as to maintain depression as a flaw ?

                      Logliner Answered on May 22, 2015.
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                        “When her sister disappears, a teen with nytcophobia must brave a world stricken with darkness and survivors gone mad if she’s to locate her sibling and bring her to safety.”

                        Singularity Answered on May 22, 2015.
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                          Just too bloated, especially for a short film.

                          “A young girl ventures forth into the darkness to rescue her sister from murderers lurking in Earth’s eternal night.”

                          OK, pretty vague. It’s not great. But you can definitely cut your logline down to something tight like that.

                          Also — “YOUNG” is not a great descriptor for a character. “GIRL” gender is a stupid function for a character to have. Don’t define your character simply by being a ‘young girl’ … or else they’re bound to be paper thin. Is she optimistic? Naive? Rambunctious? What else defines her beyond being a girl? (Also, gender is identified in the pronoun you use … “her” … so you’re wasting words in specifying that she’s a “girl” anyway).

                          Samurai Answered on May 22, 2015.
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                            The beginning of your logline delays the start of the story by having this: “In a dark and dangerous world with no sun and most of the people gone,” before it tells what happens.

                            Better to jump into the action sooner rather than later because the point of the logline is to describe the plot above all.

                            So if you were to remove the first sentence it would read:
                            “A terrified young girl must find her sister before she dies from the cold, lack of oxygen or gets killed by survivors gone mad”

                            However this is confusing because the environment is not mentioned and there is no inciting incident.
                            Also the MC flaw is too generic and therefore does’t relate to the specific obstacle she will face It begs the question; terrified of what?

                            Her depression is not a flaw it is a condition and a result of her circumstance I would expect most people to be depressed if they were in her shoes… It is nothing she can necessarily over come and I think pales in comparison to her over coming for example: nytcophobia or agoraphobia.

                            In essence the lack of oxygen, sun and general danger should come across from the setting description as it plays such a heavy part in this concept but not elaborated on. Let the description engage the readers imagination and make them want to know more rather than specify exactly the nature of this dreadful place.

                            I think Richiev gave a good re draft bellow the brevity in the setting description helps the reader understand the stakes. I would recommend perhaps an even shorter description such as: post apocalyptic, but that comes down to personal taste. As long as it sets up a setting that could have all the needed “bad things” to make MC’s goal harder (and therefore more interesting) to achieve.

                            Singularity Answered on May 22, 2015.
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                              I like your re-vamped version. It paints a pretty good picture for me.

                              Samurai Answered on May 23, 2015.
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                                Understood, thank you for all your help.

                                Logliner Answered on May 24, 2015.
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