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CraigDGriffithsUberwriter
Posted: July 9, 20162016-07-09T14:09:32+10:00 2016-07-09T14:09:32+10:00In: Drama

Wanting to go legit a young drug dealer must do one last run to rescue her sister being held hostage by her boss; knowing she be going to be killed.

One last run

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    1. CraigDGriffiths Uberwriter
      2016-07-09T14:11:22+10:00Added an answer on July 9, 2016 at 2:11 pm

      I have a first draft of the script. Your suggestions may help flesh out my thoughts. I posted a early version back in May.

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    2. Richiev Singularity
      2016-07-09T18:31:01+10:00Added an answer on July 9, 2016 at 6:31 pm

      When his sister’s held hostage, a drug dealer who’s trying to go legit must do one last job if he’s to save her.

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    3. Dkpough1 Uberwriter
      2016-07-10T00:44:47+10:00Added an answer on July 10, 2016 at 12:44 am

      Richiev’s version is good. But just to cut down on words could ‘retiring’ be used rather than ‘who’s trying to?go legit”
      One thing, though, the action and inciting incident lack a causal relationship. Going for one last drug run doesn’t make someone free. So what specifically is she trying to accomplish? To pay the ransom? What if you made it so someone related to the drug dealer kidnapped her, that way it also makes it his fault and adds more of a redemption angle?

      Example:?When a crime boss kidnaps her sister, a retiring drug dealer must complete one last job?for her to be released.?(~23 words)

      But what’s so special about just another drug run? You should add something else, this drug run is particularly dangerous because the crime boss tells her there is a mole on her team and the reason for this job is to smoke him out. Or something. Because right now it seems like there’s absolutely no stakes; if she does the job she’s done however many times there is no more risk than usual. Adding something in will show the audience that she’s willing do anything to save her sister.

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    4. dpg Singularity
      2016-07-10T02:21:40+10:00Added an answer on July 10, 2016 at 2:21 am

      I like Dkpough1’s polish in that it inserts a specific antagonist into the plot. ?However, I prefer to leave the reason why he’s retiring in the logline — he wants to go legit– as it implies more dramatic tension. ?Also I changed “dealer” to runner” because ?that’s how his job is described. ?Running and dealing are differing, specialized jobs within the trade. ?And I add the word “dangerous” to describe the job, again to imply more dramatic tension, more risk. ?So:

      When a crime boss kidnaps her sister, a drug runner who wants to go legit must complete one last dangerous run to win her release.
      (25 words)

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    5. CraigDGriffiths Uberwriter
      2016-07-10T09:31:09+10:00Added an answer on July 10, 2016 at 9:31 am

      Thanks everyone. I have a complete script but not a complete story. ?About 30 pages, start, middle and end. But not sure where to take it. ?Even if there is enough to take it anywhere. ?This exercise has helped. ?Thanks.

      it has triggered ideas around reform and sacrifice.

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    6. Dkpough1 Uberwriter
      2016-07-10T10:30:36+10:00Added an answer on July 10, 2016 at 10:30 am

      “She suspects that she is being sent to her own death.”
      My point is, what is so different? The risk seems to be the same as she is used to. Instead suspecting, I am suggesting you make it so that she knows that her boss wants her dead. That her boss wants to take something from her. And to save her sister, she is willing to give it up; she is sacrificing something so her sister can live.
      To continue with my earlier example, say the boss outright tells her, “one of the people you’re working with is an undercover cop/mole”, which tells her that either this job is a complete suicide mission so get rid of two birds with one stone, or she’ll get put away because of the mole.
      If she suspects, it doesn’t seem to be that different from past runs; she would probably be paranoid about someone ratting her out, or something going bad and her ending up dead/injured. If the job does not look any different than before, then there are fairly low stakes. She simply does the thing she has done, presumably without capture, once again, and then her sister is set free.
      To sum it up with one question: What makes the actual job(meaning other than the sister) different from before?

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    7. Neer Shelter Singularity
      2016-07-10T15:49:09+10:00Added an answer on July 10, 2016 at 3:49 pm

      Agreed with Dkpough1.

      Drug running is inherently dangerous, there is no need to describe it as such in the logline. However if all the main action in the film was a standard drug run, regardless the danger, it wouldn’t make for an original sequence – we’ve all seen drug deals and runs in film and TV many times already. The obstacle needs a good twist or hook to make it a compelling story.

      Right now the “hook” is the fact that one sister is willing to sacrifice her self for the other, aside from that being the basis of the drama in a HUGE and still current franchise, it will only make the moment of decision dramatic. In other words after she make her mind up to do the run, the action in the film will have nothing unique or particularly interesting in it.

      I think that the form?of drug running or local would perhaps be a good way to up the stakes in order to make it a non standard drug run. What if she needs to do a drug run in a particularly dangerous place, maybe the increased danger would give the run it’s needed interest boost. Maybe she needs to do a run in or out of Saudi Arabia? Or North Korea? Or China?

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    8. Dkpough1 Uberwriter
      2016-07-11T00:14:04+10:00Added an answer on July 11, 2016 at 12:14 am

      “Maybe she needs to do a run in or out of Saudi Arabia? Or North Korea? Or China?”
      Yes, I didn’t think about that. Maybe a different twist to think about is that the authorities know. The boss literally tells her pointblank: I notified the authorities of your future activity. Have fun!
      Then the drug runner has to come up with an even more creative way to sneak past them.
      To help you along, I looked up a?personal experience article from an actual drug runner(yes, I know is it?from a comedy site, so take any facts within it with a grain of salt). And, from the same site(again, check any facts with other sources, but you should always do that anyway), an article detailing some creative techniques. Another from a different site.
      Hope this helps.

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    9. dpg Singularity
      2016-07-11T07:03:38+10:00Added an answer on July 11, 2016 at 7:03 am

      The more I think about it, the more I have questions about the premise.

      If the drug runner is any good, experienced and reliable, and the job that dangerous, why would the drug lord consent to let her retire? ?Why would he want to incur the trouble of training a replacement, increase the risk of doing his business with a novice?

      Also, given her experience, ?the runner obviously knows too much about the operation. ?What’s to stop her from turning informer as part of effort to go legit???

      It seems to me that if the drug lord is any good, if he ?has the requisite survival skills for his line of work — paranoia and ruthlessness, he would never allow her to retire. ?

      All the drug lord has to do is threaten to kill ?her sister — ?her whole family — if she tries to “retire”. ?The drug runner is in a “Hotel California” situation. ?She can check out any time — but she can never leave.?

      So her task is to find a way to go legit as well as protect her whole family from retribution.

      fwiw

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    10. Neer Shelter Singularity
      2016-07-11T09:08:39+10:00Added an answer on July 11, 2016 at 9:08 am

      Agreed with DPG.

      What if the runner’s goal is to kill the drug boss? This way she can eliminate any future threats and have a different goal to just going legit – she has to kill in order to do so.

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    11. CraigDGriffiths Uberwriter
      2016-07-11T19:10:50+10:00Added an answer on July 11, 2016 at 7:10 pm

      Here’s the beats.

      Drug boss [Doug] (low level – all these people are super low level) believes that she [Amy] is talking to police.
      He arranges for he to drop off a car – the run. But to someone she knows is dangerous.
      Doug takes her sister, to keep her safe, but we all know she is a hostage.
      She knows Doug is sending her to be killed.
      (lots of twists and turns).
      Sister escapes, Amy doesn’t know.
      Amy kills off the guy that was going to kill her.
      She heads back Doug to kill him.
      There is a stand off. She finds out her sister is okay.
      Amy realises that if she survives her sister will be dragged back into this life.
      Amy decides to take out Doug and die in a hail of bullets.
      A sacrifice that guarantees her sister a chance at a better life.

      thanks everyone.

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    12. dpg Singularity
      2016-07-11T23:20:02+10:00Added an answer on July 11, 2016 at 11:20 pm

      .>>Drug boss [Doug] (low level)

      Oh. ?Then I suggest he be described as psychopathic to convey the sense that although he’s at the bottom of the food chain, he’s still dangerous.

      >>She knows Doug is sending her to be killed.

      Who is the “she”? ?Who is the “her”? ?For sake of clarity in breaking down the beats, please ID the sisters by name.

      >>Amy realizes that if she survives her sister will be dragged back into this life.

      Her sister is a drug dealer or runner, too? ?I thought it was Amy who was trying to get out of the business; her sister is just a collateral victim of her bad choices. ?This is confusing.

      I can see why Amy concludes she must kill her boss. ?But I don’t understand why she thinks her own survival puts her sister at risk. All she needs to do is kill the boss. ?That’s a risky endeavor and she may end up dying while trying — but that’s a different intention and expectation.

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    13. Dkpough1 Uberwriter
      2016-07-11T23:35:44+10:00Added an answer on July 11, 2016 at 11:35 pm

      I can’t speak for the show’s quality, but I’ve seen something about a recent USA Network show, “Queen of the South” that has similar topic to yours. It’s more about the woman becoming a Queenpin herself than being a runner, but it might be worth checking out. The show is based on a telenovela, “La Reina del Sur” if you understand Spanish, or want to watch with subtitles.

      I was under the impression that she had already left and her boss kidnapped the sister in order to make her return. But if she’s still working for him, why does he need to kidnap her sister to coerce her to do the job? She’s already working for him. Kidnapping the sister seems to serve no purpose. All he has to do, if he suspects she’s talking, is to send her on a suicide mission and not even alert her to the fact that he’s suspicious. Kidnapping the sister only draws attention, which is something a drug boss wouldn’t want.

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    14. Dkpough1 Uberwriter
      2016-07-12T23:39:03+10:00Added an answer on July 12, 2016 at 11:39 pm

      ‘?The world is a better place without me in it?.”
      Who’s going to take care of her sister? Are the parents still around? Because if not, Amy letting herself die is just leaving her 13 year old sister to fend for herself.

      I still think you need a better reason for the boss kidnapping the sister. Because it sounds like Amy doesn’t know her boss suspects her. So why would he show his hand and do something like kidnapping her sister? If she were working the cops, then all she has to do is tell them he has her sister, and bam, a kidnapping charge, whether or not they can get him on anything else.
      So I think the one thing you need to think about is giving Doug a solid reason for kidnapping the sister.
      As for reading your script, I would but I haven’t been finding the time to read lately because I am working on writing my own script and planning a novel.

      On a last note, has anyone else been on the Amazon Studios program? It seems like a really cool option for screenwriters.

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    15. dpg Singularity
      2016-07-13T06:58:08+10:00Added an answer on July 13, 2016 at 6:58 am

      The ?logline sets up the predicament that Amy must do the run to rescue her sister. ?So it seems to me that it’s a dramatic cheat to have her sister rescue herself — and too easily at that. ? ?It reduces dramatic tension and suspense for the 3rd Act when dramatic tension and suspense should?spike.

      The core dramatic question raised by the logline is: ?can Amy rescue her sister? ?Amy has to jump over sundry hurdles, overcome threats, defeat opponents to provide the final answer to the question. ?All the while,?the objective goal remains the same: rescue her sister from the drug lord.

      ?The final answer to that question should not be answered until the last minutes of the 3rd Act.?And it should be answered by the protagonist, Amy, not her sister. ?That’s the protagonist’s job description ?– to work out the final answer to the dramatic question. ?

      So you want Amy to expand her rescue goal to her sister’s future, too? ?Fine. ?But the future is what happens after the FADE OUT. ?Amy should also rescue her sister within the present tense, the time frame of the film itself, before the FADE OUT. ?

      That’s the premise and an implied promise of the logline. ?And I think the story should deliver on its promise. ?Not only would it enhance dramatic suspense and tension it would make Amy’s sacrificial death more meaningful.

      fwiw

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    16. Dkpough1 Uberwriter
      2016-07-13T12:18:20+10:00Added an answer on July 13, 2016 at 12:18 pm

      “The core dramatic question raised by the logline is: ?can Amy rescue her sister?”

      Agreed with dpg. What is the point of the story at all if her sister can simply rescue herself? The audience goes, expecting to see Amy go through whatever it is she goes through in order to save her sister, but then comes to find out that her whole journey was pointless.
      There would be cases where Amy not saving her sister were acceptable. Say if her arc was learning to trust others, and then she finally allows someone to help her and save her sister; then that would be a part of Amy’s development. She trusted someone else to complete the mission she set out to do.
      What do we get if Ella saves herself? Nothing. No development. No feeling of triumph when the protagonist defeats the ?antagonist. ?Amy doesn’t even know. ?And then Amy sacrifices herself, for what?

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    17. CraigDGriffiths Uberwriter
      2016-07-13T22:03:20+10:00Added an answer on July 13, 2016 at 10:03 pm

      Good point dpg. But the idea of the story is that Amy has wanted out for a while (for the sake of her sister). Being harassed to by cops triggers Doug’s suspicion and why he wants her dead. This motivates to make the break.

      Doug holding her is a hurdle. She wants a clean break for Ella and herself. Ella escaping makes Amy choosing to shot Doug means that Ella will never have to return, not even for prison visits. By dying, Amy sets Ella free.

      Amy believed originally that she would visit Doug, spin some crap to buy a day or two and leave. Instead, he grabbed Ella and triggers the events.

      Can’t see the logline ….

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    18. Dkpough1 Uberwriter
      2016-07-14T01:42:54+10:00Added an answer on July 14, 2016 at 1:42 am

      “Amy believed originally that she would visit Doug, spin some crap to buy a day or two and leave. Instead, he grabbed Ella and triggers the events.”

      Doug still has the advantage in the fact that Amy doesn’t know he suspects her. I still don’t think it’s very smart of him to play his hand and kidnap a girl based on suspicion alone. It’s not even a part of some elaborate plan to prove Amy is working against him. He just kidnaps her so the story can happen.
      And, still, Ella rescuing herself serves nothing. It’s like you’re painting yourself into a corner by making Amy’s task too impossible so you finish the goal by making Ella get away.
      It would make more sense if Doug catches Amy about to take her sister and run, and then it makes his suspicion valid and out of anger he snatches her sister and then uses that to leverage Amy into doing more work. And all along Amy is plotting to rescue her sister.

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    19. dpg Singularity
      2016-07-14T02:19:14+10:00Added an answer on July 14, 2016 at 2:19 am

      Again, I agree with Dkpough1.

      I fail to understand why Amy can’t rescue her sister in the present as well as the future; I can see so many dramatic reasons why she can — and should — do both. ?And, once again, having Ella rescue herself reduces 3rd Act dramatic tension ?which violates a fundamental rule of dramatic action.

      The logline says that Amy must rescue her sister. ?The logical expectation of anyone reading the logline is that Amy will rescue her sister from the drug dealer some time between FADE IN and FADE OUT. ?That the rescue will take place explicitly on screen in the present tense of the story, not implicitly off screen — no visual, no rescue scene — in the future after the credit scroll.

      When a director or producer reads the script ?and discovers that Ella rescues herself from the drug boss, I seriously doubt he (or she) will be pleasantly surprised.

      If you do not want Amy to directly rescue her sister from the clutches of the drug dealer, then I suggest you need to revise the logline to eliminate that expectation. ?Otherwise it is misleading.

      Just saying.

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    20. Dkpough1 Uberwriter
      2016-07-14T10:47:58+10:00Added an answer on July 14, 2016 at 10:47 am

      “If you do not want Amy to directly rescue her sister from the clutches of the drug dealer, then I suggest you need to revise the logline to eliminate that expectation. ?Otherwise it is misleading.Just saying.”

      Agree. What is the story really about? What is the action which causes everything else in the story? Is it Amy wanting to go legit or is it Amy wanting to save her sister?

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    21. CraigDGriffiths Uberwriter
      2016-07-14T23:05:48+10:00Added an answer on July 14, 2016 at 11:05 pm

      In a nutshell:

      Amy is willing to do anything for her sister, but posed with limited choices she sold drugs. ?Her girlfriend at the time another drug dealer got into a bad situation and left. ?Amy wasn’t willing to change as it may risk her sister Ella. ?Now only three things make people change “Jealousy”, “Suffering” or “Dissatisfaction”.

      Amy knows her world is closing in around her. ?She thinks if she runs, Doug will come for her. ?So she tries to get out of it. ?He takes her sister. Even though she knows she may die, she goes to get time to think of something to save her sister.

      While on the road. Her sister escapes. Amy is forced to kill someone to get back to Ella. ? Amy is unaware that Ella is safe. ?She continues to act as if Ella was still in danger.

      When Amy?gets back she discovers that Ella is safe and heading to her ex-girl friend. ?Amy knows that if she survives, she’ll probably go to prison. ?Ella would stay close to visit or out of loyalty. ?Amy knows Ella’s only chance is be free of her influence and of the life they have had, is if Amy is no longer around. ?Her only chance is with her ex-girl friend who has gone legit. For this to happen Amy must die.

      So what would the Logline look like?

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    22. Dkpough1 Uberwriter
      2016-07-15T00:29:12+10:00Added an answer on July 15, 2016 at 12:29 am

      “?Her only chance is with her ex-girl friend who has gone legit. For this to happen Amy must die.”

      I still don’t see exactly why Ella is kidnapped. It’s only a noticeable crime that will have consequences for Doug. There is no motive to kidnap the sister. The very thing he’s trying to prevent is bringing attention to himself by making sure Amy isn’t an informant, which again, why would he kidnap someone based on a suspicion? But he’s bringing unwanted attention….in order to prevent unwanted attention?
      And why must Amy die? If Doug knows about her sister, she is not safe. Amy dying only leaves her sister without her protection.
      If Ella frees herself and then Amy just dies for the heck of it, it has no impact. The goal already complete, and unless it’s for setting up a sequel, the death is extraneous. It is not earned. Amy did not die because of a complete dedication to her goal, which was already complete. It was because after the fact she got the idea that her sister’s life would be better without her. It doesn’t really develop her character, it serves nothing.

      If the story is about a woman trying to go legit after a life of crime, so she give her sister a better life, then focus on that.

      Example:?When her sister is shot by a rival gang, a drug runner must steal enough money from her drug boss to get out of a life of crime and protect her sister.?(~32 words)

      This focuses on that: Amy realizing what her life is doing to her sister, and now she must do something to get away from it.

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    23. CraigDGriffiths Uberwriter
      2016-07-15T07:22:39+10:00Added an answer on July 15, 2016 at 7:22 am

      So like myself, it is hard to get a handle on a logline for this story without changing the story.

      I appreciate all the suggestions, but I have the story. It doesn’t need a change. Everything works, well I am currently doing a bit of a backstory on one issue based on insightful notes.

      I think I will focus on the sacrifice for the logline.

      Thx- love to see logline suggestions.

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    24. Neer Shelter Singularity
      2016-07-18T12:00:53+10:00Added an answer on July 18, 2016 at 12:00 pm

      I find often that if a logline can’t be structured well enough to read on its own, it’s indicative of a problem in the story. I’ve come in late on this discussion, but from reading the other responses on the thread and according to?your own statement: “…?it is hard to get a handle on a logline for this story without changing the story?.”, it sounds like best to change the story.

      Just an objective view of this thread, I mean nothing else by it 🙂

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    25. Dkpough1 Uberwriter
      2016-07-18T23:21:22+10:00Added an answer on July 18, 2016 at 11:21 pm

      “I find often that if a logline can?t be structured well enough to read on its own, it?s indicative of a problem in the story.”

      Part of the problem is that if it’s your story, you tend to think every single detail is absolutely important and perfect, and so you want to stuff as much of this awesomeness you’ve created into your logline as possible.

      “Doug is a ?Drug F%%ked? low level want-a-be drug boss. ?He uses as product as he sells. ”

      If Doug’s supposed to be a high, impulsive, stupid kind of guy, then how in the world is the boss of anyone? How is he not in jail? As of now, him kidnapping Ella is just an event you need to happen to make the plot to continue. It isn’t a logical thing any good dealer(meaning one that isn’t in jail) would do based on suspicion alone. It would be easier to just kill the suspected person.
      The problem is that if Doug is so stupid, how is he of any good as an antagonist to a drug runner who regularly has to use her wits and creativity to outsmart the authorities? You’re intentionally making the antagonist stupid so the main character is guaranteed to win no matter what; her 13 year old sister is able to escape from him!

      If the Joker were actually stupid, then he wouldn’t be the villain that he is. He wouldn’t be the one to cause the most psychological problems Batman has faced in all of comic history.

      If an antagonist is stupid it needs to have a different element to challenge the MC. Zombies are numerous and mindless; they simple won’t stop until they eat your brain. Likewise, the titans in “Attack on Titan” are giant, incredibly strong creatures who eat humans for no reason. Behind every mook with a gun there is always the Big Man, the guy who pulls all the strings and is the smarts of the operation.

      The antagonist needs to challenge the protagonist either physically, psychologically,?spiritually, something.

      Doug is just kind of there. Amy doesn’t defeat him, well, at all. She doesn’t overcome the challenges he throws at her, because he doesn’t really challenge her. He is defeated by his own incompetence, and by a 13 year old girl. Amy should be the one to win, or lose by the antagonist’s hand, and because of the trials she faces she should change as a person. I think you need to rethink your antagonist.

      Last thing: If the sacrifice is tacked on to the end of the story, after the goal is already complete, then it means little. If Amy were to sacrifice herself in order to rescue her sister, it would be noble, it would fit the character. But just deciding after her sister is safe to die means that she’s leaving her sister without her; it doesn’t really fit the character.

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