Karel SegersSamurai Posted: June 13, 20202020-06-13T15:03:19+10:00 2020-06-13T15:03:19+10:00In: DramaWhen a white supremacist cop is confronted by billboards calling out his chief’s neglect of a rape and murder case, he must silence the victim’s bitter mother and return peace to the town.Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri ShareFacebook7 ReviewsVotedOldestRecentKarel Segers 8 Loglines 70 Reviews 11 Best Reviews 2,605 Points View ProfileBest Answer Karel Segers Samurai 2020-06-13T15:05:49+10:00Added an answer on June 13, 2020 at 3:05 pm This review was edited. MPR: …but when the chief suicides and leaves a note with a message of love, the cop must put his bigotry aside, reconcile with the mother, and conclude the investigation himself.0 Share ShareShare on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on LinkedInShare on WhatsAppsavinh0 57 Loglines 91 Reviews 7 Best Reviews 3,317 Points View ProfileBest Answer savinh0 Samurai 2020-06-15T12:23:28+10:00Added an answer on June 15, 2020 at 12:23 pm Good version, Karel! I was just wondering if the logline wasn’t told from the perspective of the mother (Frances McDormand)? I thought she was the protagonist. 0 Share ShareShare on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on LinkedInShare on WhatsAppLibari 5 Loglines 3 Reviews 2 Best Reviews 156 Points View ProfileBest Answer Libari Logliner 2020-06-16T02:12:18+10:00Added an answer on June 16, 2020 at 2:12 am Interesting logline, but I’m curious – is this trying to justify cops in the midst of everything that’s happening in the real world? I don’t think there’d be many people interested if the logline would say something like “a white supremacist cop”?0 Share ShareShare on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on LinkedInShare on WhatsAppdpg 105 Loglines 5,558 Reviews 559 Best Reviews 111,953 Points View ProfileBest Answer dpg Singularity 2020-06-17T10:10:25+10:00Added an answer on June 17, 2020 at 10:10 am I tilt toward savnih0’s version for this film because the grieving mother is the protagonist. Is she ever. Frances McDormand as the grieving actress won the Oscar for best performance by an actress in a leading role; Sam Rockwell as the deeply flawed cop won the Oscar for the best performance in a supporting role.>>>because he has the greatest journey, and the story is structured more clearly around him.I suggest that the mother being less or more a steadfast character is secondary to determining who gets getting top billing in a logline. The more fundamental question to ask to determine who deserves the top billing is : who is in the driver’s seat of the plot?Answer: the grieving mother.Further, the cop being a White supremacist is a character flaw extraneous to the central dramatic problem of the plot. If the grieving mother were a Native American or Black or Latina, then it would be germane; it would be a flaw he must overcome to help her. But she’s a White woman. He doesn’t have to overcome his White supremacy to help her.Finally, I’m not so sure that the screenwriter organized the entire story line around the very defective cop. His role only becomes central to the denouement when he flips in the 2nd half of the film to become an ally of the grieving mother, not an adversary.Even if that is the case, it’s not what got the script sold, the movie made. What got the movie made, the A-list talent attached, the financing, the green light was the story hook. And the story hook is that a grieving mother rents 3 billboards to provoke the local police to find her daughter’s murder. As featured in savinh0’s version.My thinking on loglining has evolved such that I think writers ought to write two loglines for every script. One to organize the script;. a second one to market the script. The first logline focuses on the primary plot elements (inciting incident, main character, objective goal, yada-yada); the second focuses on the story hook. The first logline describes the steak; the second logline sells the sizzle.The loglining strategy that Karel presents, aka: the formula, is a necessary first step to writing a script. I do not disparage or discount it’s utility and importance. To repeat: it’s a necessary first step. I wish more people would study the formula page, really study it, not just give it a cursory read, before posting loglines.But I also believe that when it comes time to pitch the finished script, to promote it in the marketplace, a writer ought to cover it with a second logline that features the hook. A first logline to prepare the script, a second logline to promote it.Not either/or, but both.My 2.5 cents worth.0 Share ShareShare on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on LinkedInShare on WhatsAppdpg 105 Loglines 5,558 Reviews 559 Best Reviews 111,953 Points View ProfileBest Answer dpg Singularity 2020-06-18T01:19:14+10:00Added an answer on June 18, 2020 at 1:19 am Karel,I guess I’ll have to re-view the movie. However, I will say that I think women would be more inclined to root for Mildred rather than Dixon because she has to contend with a common situation women can identify with: not being taken seriously enough by men.Also, women demanding justice for the murder of their daughters is a primal motif, an archetypal theme that goes back to Greek mythology and tragedy. (See the Oresteia, Aeschylus’ magnificent trilogy on revenge and reconciliation.)I grant you that working out a strong hook for marketing purposes may not be reducible to a formula. But I think there are some key questions that can be asked to stimulate and guide the brainstorming process. Another thread, perhaps, for another occasion.Regards and thanks again for providing this vital service to aspiring writers.0 Share ShareShare on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on LinkedInShare on WhatsAppdwon 0 Loglines 6 Reviews 3 Best Reviews 141 Points View ProfileBest Answer dwon Logliner 2020-06-18T04:09:32+10:00Added an answer on June 18, 2020 at 4:09 am In a hard scrabble small town, a gritty hell raiser starts her own investigation when the cops bungle her daughter’s rape and murder case.0 Share ShareShare on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on LinkedInShare on WhatsAppdwon 0 Loglines 6 Reviews 3 Best Reviews 141 Points View ProfileBest Answer dwon Logliner 2020-06-18T04:15:54+10:00Added an answer on June 18, 2020 at 4:15 am A gritty hell raiser launches a scorched earth billboard campaign in a hard scrabble small town when the cops bungle her daughter’s rape and murder investigation.0 Share ShareShare on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on LinkedInShare on WhatsAppYou must login to can add an answer. 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