Hi everyone!
2015 has started with a flurry of activity on Logline It! Thank you for using the site to improve your loglines and story concepts.
Over the next few days and weeks, I will contact each and everyone one of you to see if and how you are using the site.
I will also be cleaning out some spam users, and I’m hoping to get your help with that.
At the end of last year, I did some considerable work to speed up the site, and I’m happy to report that we’re scoring up there with the very fastest web sites, not just on screenwriting! Unfortunately the work broke some of the functionality, such as the voting and the ‘Just Reviewed’. All that has been restored, so you can use it all at your heart’s content.
For now, have a look at the overview of 2014 on this site:
http://jetpack.me/annual-report/34803605/2014
Speak soon!
Cheers,
Karel
Yes, those topics are popular. That’s what makes writing a logline which is compelling, original and stands out above the crowd is so hard. This is why these people deserve our support. I am going to have a twenty to one ratio between posting and reviewing. Hope it bring support for when I post.
Yes, those topics are popular. That’s what makes writing a logline which is compelling, original and stands out above the crowd is so hard. This is why these people deserve our support. I am going to have a twenty to one ratio between posting and reviewing. Hope it bring support for when I post.
Reasons stated in the following article are probably why you won’t find many Australian stories being pitched here…
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/why-wont-we-watch-australian-films-20141024-11bhia.html
You can probably assume that most of my stories are set in Australia, but I’m not going out of my way to make it obvious.
Reasons stated in the following article are probably why you won’t find many Australian stories being pitched here…
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/why-wont-we-watch-australian-films-20141024-11bhia.html
You can probably assume that most of my stories are set in Australia, but I’m not going out of my way to make it obvious.
I haven’t been very active this past year, but when I did check a few loglines, I find the real lack of variety in ideas. Supernatural, post apocalyptic action stories seem to predominate that take place either in the US or somewhere in the Universe. Don’t get me wrong. I love sci-fi, but where are the human dramas, the Australian stories? Maybe I just didn’t look hard enough. I’ll keep looking, though.
I haven’t been very active this past year, but when I did check a few loglines, I find the real lack of variety in ideas. Supernatural, post apocalyptic action stories seem to predominate that take place either in the US or somewhere in the Universe. Don’t get me wrong. I love sci-fi, but where are the human dramas, the Australian stories? Maybe I just didn’t look hard enough. I’ll keep looking, though.
Hi guys.
Only appropriate…
Karel thanks for setting up Logline.it personally I find that the site has proven to be an invaluable development tool for concepts and as DPG mentioned a great way to learn.
We have a wonderful little community here and I think for the most part the participants appreciate the time and effort we take to reply. It would be nice to see more members returning the favor but (as Karel mentioned) there is a degree of confidence required for this and it appears that as time goes by more are finding the confidence they need to do so, so in time more and more members will comment. As for enforcing this as a requirement, I think the open and welcoming approach is serving the cause of this site better than assigning a quota system.
I look forward to many more years of posts and discussions with you all.
Long live story!
Hi guys.
Only appropriate…
Karel thanks for setting up Logline.it personally I find that the site has proven to be an invaluable development tool for concepts and as DPG mentioned a great way to learn.
We have a wonderful little community here and I think for the most part the participants appreciate the time and effort we take to reply. It would be nice to see more members returning the favor but (as Karel mentioned) there is a degree of confidence required for this and it appears that as time goes by more are finding the confidence they need to do so, so in time more and more members will comment. As for enforcing this as a requirement, I think the open and welcoming approach is serving the cause of this site better than assigning a quota system.
I look forward to many more years of posts and discussions with you all.
Long live story!
Hi guys – thank you for your comments.
Every now and then, I speak with people who use Logline It! for their loglines, and find that many feel insecure, and therefore fear to comment on others’ loglines. So it’s not really a matter of selfishness or laziness.
We’re all incredibly fortunate to have star commenters like PDG, Richiev, Nir etc.! But I understand some people are a bit intimidated. 😉
All that said, I’m really happy that you guys are using the site and helping out by commenting. You are doing the screenwriting community a wonderful service.
Thank you!
Hi guys – thank you for your comments.
Every now and then, I speak with people who use Logline It! for their loglines, and find that many feel insecure, and therefore fear to comment on others’ loglines. So it’s not really a matter of selfishness or laziness.
We’re all incredibly fortunate to have star commenters like PDG, Richiev, Nir etc.! But I understand some people are a bit intimidated. 😉
All that said, I’m really happy that you guys are using the site and helping out by commenting. You are doing the screenwriting community a wonderful service.
Thank you!
I’d probably contribute more critique-wise if I didn’t already feel that others – dpg / Richiev, in particular, have already raised relevant concerns.
You have to be quick around those guys otherwise you’re just overstating the obvious.
I’d probably contribute more critique-wise if I didn’t already feel that others – dpg / Richiev, in particular, have already raised relevant concerns.
You have to be quick around those guys otherwise you’re just overstating the obvious.
There seems to be two ways to critique a logline. One is to look at the problems within the logline and try to fix them. The other is to look at the story and try to fix it.
Both are legitimate, however I have found most the time it’s a logline problem not a story problem.
However there are occasions when a bad logline is the symptom of a weak story idea or plot problems.
Sometimes the writer will have the wrong lead character and when they write the logine it becomes apparent.
Sometimes the writer doesn’t quite have a story, just an idea for a story. This leads to vague loglines which describe a situation but doesn’t give the lead any sort of goal or motivation.
Sometimes the writer doesn’t have a grasp of the lead character and you get descriptions like, “A young teenage boy….” Descriptions like this tell us nothing about character. Who was Tom Sawyer? a young teenage boy or A mischievous boy with a good heart?
This being said, I have noticed sometimes writers will post a logline (with problems) and the critiques will suggest a plethora of changes to their story, and you realize the ideas given, while good, would change the story so much it simply isn’t the story the writer’s trying to write.
And that’s the fine line, you want to help improve the logline and sometimes to do that you must point out story problems, but you should not suggest so many changes that it becomes a completely different story.
In the end we are trying to improve the logline for the story the writer is trying to tell.
Just some thoughts
There seems to be two ways to critique a logline. One is to look at the problems within the logline and try to fix them. The other is to look at the story and try to fix it.
Both are legitimate, however I have found most the time it’s a logline problem not a story problem.
However there are occasions when a bad logline is the symptom of a weak story idea or plot problems.
Sometimes the writer will have the wrong lead character and when they write the logine it becomes apparent.
Sometimes the writer doesn’t quite have a story, just an idea for a story. This leads to vague loglines which describe a situation but doesn’t give the lead any sort of goal or motivation.
Sometimes the writer doesn’t have a grasp of the lead character and you get descriptions like, “A young teenage boy….” Descriptions like this tell us nothing about character. Who was Tom Sawyer? a young teenage boy or A mischievous boy with a good heart?
This being said, I have noticed sometimes writers will post a logline (with problems) and the critiques will suggest a plethora of changes to their story, and you realize the ideas given, while good, would change the story so much it simply isn’t the story the writer’s trying to write.
And that’s the fine line, you want to help improve the logline and sometimes to do that you must point out story problems, but you should not suggest so many changes that it becomes a completely different story.
In the end we are trying to improve the logline for the story the writer is trying to tell.
Just some thoughts
Being new I am happy with the interaction and hope it grows. If lack of participation is an issue enforce some rules perhaps. I suspect these people are one idea writers. The people that think their premise is a million dollar idea. Poor misguided sods.
We should perhaps invite people we know that are not selfish and let the rest drift off.
Being new I am happy with the interaction and hope it grows. If lack of participation is an issue enforce some rules perhaps. I suspect these people are one idea writers. The people that think their premise is a million dollar idea. Poor misguided sods.
We should perhaps invite people we know that are not selfish and let the rest drift off.
I share Jim Corona’s dismay that many who post their loglines for others to comment upon make the minimum required comments themselves — or none. However, I see the issue of what is lost and what is to be gained somewhat differently.
Now that I’ve officially been outed as the most persistent (and no doubt obnoxious) participant in giving notes on loglines, I have to say that taking the time and thought to comment– and it does take time and thought — has been an invaluable learning experience. Trying to explain why I like or don’t like a premise, what I think is a strength or a weakness of a logline, has compelled me to dig deeper and deeper into the whole theory and practice of screenwriting.
Also, I have gained invaluable insights in testing my ideas and knowledge in the arena with other posters. On more than 2 occasions, I have been proven wrong, wrong, wrong. Hard on my ego, but that’s part of the learning experience.
So, imho, those who choose not to participate (or only minimally) — it’s their loss.
I share Jim Corona’s dismay that many who post their loglines for others to comment upon make the minimum required comments themselves — or none. However, I see the issue of what is lost and what is to be gained somewhat differently.
Now that I’ve officially been outed as the most persistent (and no doubt obnoxious) participant in giving notes on loglines, I have to say that taking the time and thought to comment– and it does take time and thought — has been an invaluable learning experience. Trying to explain why I like or don’t like a premise, what I think is a strength or a weakness of a logline, has compelled me to dig deeper and deeper into the whole theory and practice of screenwriting.
Also, I have gained invaluable insights in testing my ideas and knowledge in the arena with other posters. On more than 2 occasions, I have been proven wrong, wrong, wrong. Hard on my ego, but that’s part of the learning experience.
So, imho, those who choose not to participate (or only minimally) — it’s their loss.
Your doing the writing community a great service here, Karel. I must admit I haven’t visited here for a while … because there were few participants who took the time to comment on others’ work, while there were many who posted loglines without sharing in the critiquing effort. I found it frustrating to comment while getting little in return. Perhaps that’s the wrong attitude, but I believe in fair play.
Your doing the writing community a great service here, Karel. I must admit I haven’t visited here for a while … because there were few participants who took the time to comment on others’ work, while there were many who posted loglines without sharing in the critiquing effort. I found it frustrating to comment while getting little in return. Perhaps that’s the wrong attitude, but I believe in fair play.